|Girl geek stereotypes
||[Sep. 11th, 2007|01:28 pm]
the systerhood of the geek girls
I just had the strangest conversation! My sister-in-law told me that she and her family were looking at my online gallery of photos from Dragon*Con and they were shocked to see so many beautiful women among the attendees. Bzuh?
Apparently, they were under the impression that "girls who are hot don't go to those things" and that conventions were populated by desperate women looking to pick up geeky boys because they couldn't do any better, if there were any women there at all.
I just... I honestly don't know how to feel about that. (I mean, other than finding it laughable and ridiculous.) Do you think this is just them, or is this a stereotype that's out there? Do people still believe that girls don't like sci-fi? Do people really think that your level of attractiveness has something to do with whether you do?
here's something that happened to me a couple of weeks ago that i'm still...mad at the world for.
since we moved here at work, we're smack in the middle of the sales group. and there's this chick up here who is absolutely fabulous. i didn't really give her a choice as to whether we were going to be friends or not, i just glombed onto her. : ) i mean, she is just great, like a syster right here at work.
so, i'm in the middle of a kara-love diatribe and she says, "i didn't know girls like you watched scifi." ??? speechless. didn't know how to take that. especially coming from someone who can rival lyssie in her action figure porn. : ) what kind of girl am i?
we had a chat later...and she has really low self-esteem and that sucks. because she is just totally and completely fabulous and the world has convinced her that she isn't. wtf?
...not to mention, she thinks i'm "well pulled together"...LMAO
1.) Totally awesome that you have a work syster!
2.) How crazy is that?!? If you're "well pulled together" you're not going to like sci-fi?
I mean, I know that there's still this stigma with a lot of people attached to fanboys, and I can kind of understand people being surprised that perfectly normal-appearing folks delve to the very depths of fannish behavior, because that is outside the mainstream. But isn't sci-fi as a genre mainstream enough now that people should understand that folks of all stripes love it?
i blame it on reality tv...well, i blame a lot of things on reality tv but seriously, a whole new audience got hooked on scifi because there was simply nothing else to watch for awhile, or, at least, the amount of serious programming dropped so drastically.
This is an old post, but it caught my eye. I just wanted to note that this stereotype is available throughout "Bimbos of the Death Sun," the first book written by Sharyn McCrumb. LOTS of stereotypes about women who are into SF, and go to conventions to get laid. Would have been a much funnier book if it hadn't harped over and over about how fat and manipulative one of the female characters is (and did I mention she's fat)?
With a name like "Bimbos of the Death Sun" I had to go look up the book. It's a shame - it sounds like a fun read, but that kind of stereotyping turns me off.
I got it off Bookmooch -- it was OOP so I had wanted to read it for many years. It has some fun elements, including the horrible "pro" at the center of the mystery... I don't think she actually based it on someone specific, but readers often think it's Harlan Ellison or someone else, like Orson Scott Card. Considering that Ellison grabbed Connie Willis' breast during an award ceremony at the LA WorldCon a few years ago, it's no wonder people read this and think of him.
Maybe Asimov's "Murder at the ABA" will be better! grin
Considering that Ellison grabbed Connie Willis' breast during an award ceremony at the LA WorldCon a few years ago, it's no wonder people read this and think of him.
You know, their is an entire section of the dude's wikipedia page entitled "Controversies"? I think that makes him officially a Very Controversial Figure. (Or a jackass. I'm not sure which.)
Let me know how the Asimov book is! :-)